Thursday, October 26, 2006
DICK! -- Torture is Okay
Anne Northup's second favorite guy feels that it's okay to torture suspects to get information. Here's a quote from his interview with Scott Hennen.
Q Would you agree a dunk in water is a no-brainer if it can save lives?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: It's a no-brainer for me, but for a while there, I was criticized as being the Vice President "for torture." We don't torture. That's not what we're involved in. We live up to our obligations in international treaties that we're party to and so forth. But the fact is, you can have a fairly robust interrogation program without torture, and we need to be able to do that.
And thanks to the leadership of the President now, and the action of the Congress, we have that authority, and we are able to continue to program.
It's nice to hear torture turned into a euphemism of "robust interrogation", as though it were some really good Folgers coffee. It's obvious that for Bush, Dick, and supporters like Annie Northup, the real goal of our "War on Terror" is not to get information to stop attacks, but to enact a global version of the movie Death Wish where we beat the crap out of anyone who may threaten us and have the believe that they'll gave under pressure and tell us everything we need to know. Now I love the show 24 like the next guy, but experts will tell you that a lamp wire to the privates or a simulated drowning is just as likely to get someone to tell you anything to make the torture stop as it is to give you information you can use.
We should be looking for intelligence. But I guess that if we can't find any in Washington, we sure aren't going to be able to find it in other parts of the world.
This is why Anne Northup, Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the corrupt "Stay the Course" bums need to be kicked out and we need to bring in fresh people who actually WILL work toward national security.
Q Would you agree a dunk in water is a no-brainer if it can save lives?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: It's a no-brainer for me, but for a while there, I was criticized as being the Vice President "for torture." We don't torture. That's not what we're involved in. We live up to our obligations in international treaties that we're party to and so forth. But the fact is, you can have a fairly robust interrogation program without torture, and we need to be able to do that.
And thanks to the leadership of the President now, and the action of the Congress, we have that authority, and we are able to continue to program.
It's nice to hear torture turned into a euphemism of "robust interrogation", as though it were some really good Folgers coffee. It's obvious that for Bush, Dick, and supporters like Annie Northup, the real goal of our "War on Terror" is not to get information to stop attacks, but to enact a global version of the movie Death Wish where we beat the crap out of anyone who may threaten us and have the believe that they'll gave under pressure and tell us everything we need to know. Now I love the show 24 like the next guy, but experts will tell you that a lamp wire to the privates or a simulated drowning is just as likely to get someone to tell you anything to make the torture stop as it is to give you information you can use.
We should be looking for intelligence. But I guess that if we can't find any in Washington, we sure aren't going to be able to find it in other parts of the world.
This is why Anne Northup, Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the corrupt "Stay the Course" bums need to be kicked out and we need to bring in fresh people who actually WILL work toward national security.
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Let me get this straight. You think it is OK for people in Iraq, and in other terrorist countries to attack American's Burn them, cut off their heads and to put it on TV, but dunking a guys head in water to make him tell us what terrible things his buddies are going to do is bad?
I am guessing that if you were the target you might just disagree.. but ONLY in hindsight which would be too late.
I am guessing that if you were the target you might just disagree.. but ONLY in hindsight which would be too late.
No, actually, I have the audacity to say that neither is okay. This may cater to your sense of justice, but the world ain't the TV Show 24, and experts will tell you that much of the information you get from torture is suspect at best.
Mr. Dicken, I realize that most people who support this President think the Constitution makes great toilet paper. I happen to think its an important document and if you were a true "values" voter, you'd value that document more highly than you do.
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Mr. Dicken, I realize that most people who support this President think the Constitution makes great toilet paper. I happen to think its an important document and if you were a true "values" voter, you'd value that document more highly than you do.
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